i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Data-Dog:
I did answer your question. I said that I would report immediately. But then I said that if it is not a crime in the land in which one lives. There isn't a lot that the police can do. It is disgusting yes, but in some lands it is not illegal.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
scatheme:
I am sorry to tell you but atleast in the US, Watchtower does not contain a fiduciary relationship. That is what a number of judges have ruled. I am not saying that it is right. But I go for facts and that is a fact.
please, recent information is needed about this subject discussed some 12-years ago here on jwn?
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https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/85323/watchtower-society-50-share-holder-military-company?page=1&size=10.
The filing on the SEC site shows two things. First that they didn't actually own any stock. And second that even if they did receive actual stock that they didn't have any vote when it came to the decisions made by the company. The person who was the founder retained the right to vote as he saw fit.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Incognito- Sorry I didn't write my statement properly. I meant outside of Watchtower. I honestly think that the laws need to be changed. I don't agree with the idea that Watchtower should be sued to oblivion but that is my personal opinion. But I do feel that it is better for everyone if we fight to change the laws, I feel that would be more effective.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Outlaw- I have defended the Watchtower in the past but the more I look into it, the more it doesn't seem reasonable.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Data-Dog. If I could report it to the police and them actually do something I would. My point is that in those countries no matter what you tell the cops, they can't do anything because no law was broken.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Incognito- I completely agree with you that is what the law should be. And I wholeheartedly agree with anyone that fights for that law to be made. My points is there are different laws out there depending on states or countries. I feel that we as a people who are determined to protect children need to focus energy on changing the laws of the land in which we live.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
I am sorry if you find my questions as pointless. But obviously many of you have given a lot of thought to this issue. I am honestly trying to understand better.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
Data-Dog. You mentioned that it doesn't matter what the law is that it must be reported. But my question was if it is not against the law who are you going to report it too? If it is against the law do you want the police to arrest the person and then do what? Again I don't mean to start a fight with anyone. I am honestly asking what should be done.
i have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
I am not saying that a low age of consent is good. Of course it is not. But if it is not against the law what do you expect law enforcement to do. According to the Mirror as of 2013, the following countries had an age of consent of 14: Austria, Germany, Portogul and Italy. at 15 the countries include: France, Denmark, Check Republic and Greece. Spain was at 13 but recently raised it to 16. And Angola has a stagering low age of 12. While Japan is at 13 and China is at 14.
And there are plenty of countries that don't have robust law enforcement or judicial actions.
